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head outside and 5 step protection problems

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head outside and 5 step protection problems

Postby ncolcoach on Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:32 am

I am having two major problems with my OL right now. One is getting the head to the outside on any outside run/sprint pass play. The other is keeping their heads out of protection in my 5 step pro. The way I teach 5 step is for the T's to lock in on man pro and the G's and C to sort out the next 3 biggest threats (against a 4-3 it is the N/T/MLB, 3-3 it's the N/MLB/LOLB). My center especially is notorious for burying his head and not seeing a slant or LB run through. Anyone have any drills that may help me improve my problems?
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Postby fogle on Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:28 pm

I have never done it with my guys, but to keep their head in proper positioning make them pass pro with NO HELMET! They naturally are going to keep their face out of harms way??? Let me know if you have any success with that.

With getting the OL's to proper place, maybe this will help. I picked it up from a coach at a Hawg Tuff camp. Inside will take you outside (take your inside hand to DL's outside number. If you can get you hand there then the head should be in proper place.

Hope this helps????
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Postby coachmpope on Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:05 pm

COACH,,,,, THE BEST WAY TO GET YOUR OLS TO WORK TO OUTSIDE ALIGNMENT ON DLS IS TO TAKE A SLIGHT DROP STEP AS THEY MOVE OUTSIDE ON DL. THIS GETS THEM OFF THE LINE ENOUGH TO GET OUTSIDE LEVERAGE ON DL. THEY HAVE TO MOVE AS IF THEY ARE REACHING THE DL AND WORK THEIR INSIDE HAND TO HIS OUTSIDE NUMBER. THEN IF THEY BEAT THE DL OUTSIDE AND HE TRIES TO GO INSIDE THEY SIMPLY WORK THEIR HANDS TO INSIDE AND PIN HIM INSIDE.
FOGLE HAD HAS THE IDEA ABOUT PASS PRO WITH THE HELMET OFF. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. ALSO YOU CAN STAND IN FRONT OF YOUR OLS AS THEY PASS BLOCK AND HOLD UP FINSGERS FRO THEM TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE SO AS TO ASURE THEY ARE NOT BURYING THEIR FACE. MAKING SURE THEY LOCK OUT THEIR PUNCH WILL HELP WITH THIS ALSO. GOOD LUCK AND I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A GREAT SEASON.
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Postby kw on Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:34 pm

The call side linemen will set to reach working to the call side defender. The landmark for the call side offensive linemen is the outside armpit of the down defender. The call side offensive linemen will punch the outside arm of the defender with his outside hand controlling the shoulder. The inside hand will punch the middle of the defenders chest with the thumb up. It is important to maintain inside leverage while reaching the down defender. All the call side lineman is doing is reaching the down defender and pinning him inside. The footwork is a (1st step set to reach) bucket step with a (2nd step) slight cross over the third step will bring the offensive lineman back to balance.

The backside linemen will soft post and pivot protecting the inside gap (hinge), the uncovered lineman will dual read. A dual reader is an uncovered offensive lineman who is eyeballing a second level defender and then works to a backside rusher. If the second level defender blitzes the dual reader will block him if not he will check for a backside rusher.

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Postby ps_olcoach on Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:38 am

coach, i use a technique i learned from sam pitman at UNC. He teaches the drop step, as the other gentleman was saying. Now, after th first step, have the lineman use his outside arm to the outside number. Use the short arm/long arm technique. Pull the defender into you with your short arm and control him with the long arm.
FOR EX

If reaching right. Im going to aim my right arm at the outside number(armpit). Then lock on with my left arm and pull him into me. This forces the defender into you, and gives you time to move your feet around him and seal him off.
Try this let me know if you it works.
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Postby nationalpastime on Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:09 pm

i've got something that might help keeping their heads out. you can either get a hand shield or a leather medicine ball. have your lineman get in a 3 pt stance with no helmet on. if you have a bag set up on his down hand side and get ready to swing it like a baseball bat. when you call "hit" wait a nano second before you swing so the lineman can begin getting set up. as they get better at it you can increase the speed or decrease the amount of time they have after "hit". the lineman has to get set up quickly or he will get hit in the face. this will also cause them to punch away from their face. the next step is to do it with the medicine ball. do everything the same except fire the medicine ball at their face instead of the bag.
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Re: head outside and 5 step protection problems

Postby Bill Mountjoy on Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:17 pm

I. We have 2 such run blocks used according to the situation:

REACH BLOCK

PURPOSE: Used to prevent a defender a defender from escaping laterally to playside. Drive defender off the ball and reach him later.

1. Step up and out with the near foot.
2. A.P. = playside arm pit.
3. 2nd step bisect the crotch.
4. Inside hand to chest.
5. 3rd step – outside defender’s shoe and upfield.
6. Control the playside shoulder.
7. Knock defender off the ball – work to get hips square.
8. Footwork – 1, 2-3, 2-3.



CUTOFF BLOCK

PURPOSE: A backside block used to seal off lateral pursuit to the playside (example: outside zone block on play that will cut back).

1. Step up and out with near foot.
2. A.P. = playside number, arm pit, helmet in gap.
3. 2nd step bisect the crotch.
4. Dip and rip backside forearm through playside number (inside hand to chest). You use hat & hands to a lock-out.
5. Work to stay square.
6. Good head and neck squeeze.
7. Work defender upfield.
8. Prevent defender from crossing your face (IT IS A “PRIDE” BLOCK)!

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II. As to 5 Step Protection - we use BIG ON BIG to the callside, & BASE (SOLID) MAN to the backside of the call. Here are some of the technique Coaching Points:

1. BE AGGRESSIVE (on 3, 5, & 7 step drops). Step & strike like a boxer.

2. Shuffle & slide – don’t cross over. Stay flat footed (not on balls of feet). Be like a defensive basketball player.

3. Get set QUICK (snap up quick – snap hands up – snap butt under you). (Your outside eye on his inside eye).

4. Jab step – get foot down – strike (come over foot) with power. Don’t come over both feet – keep one foot at home. (Keep post foot – inside foot – up).

5. Step and strike on the rise – strike up (not out). Do not overextend (over-extension is the biggest problem in pass protection). Don’t bend at the waist. Don’t wind up on punch.

6. Balance and feet: Give ground grudgingly – stay low (“sit down”) –don’t overextend.

7. OT vs. edge rusher – first step shouldn’t be too deep, or turn your shoulders. Use two cones to get the proper first step: OT doesn’t step back or laterally. Short first step on an angle between the cones (below).

RT-C
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PS: IMPORTANT to Stay on line between defender & QB.


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